• 51 Core Initiations of Possibility Management

      Engaging these 51 Core Initiations enables you to set foot in the adult ego state, which is a gateway to the archetypal domains.

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    • What Is Initiation?

      'Initiation' is any experience after which the thing in you that makes you capable of being responsible has grown bigger.

       

      Responsibility is applied consciousness.

      In Possibility Management we have named the thing in you that holds the distinctions in your energetic body your 'Matrix'. Practice, for example, builds Matrix. The more Matrix you build, the more consciousness you catch and hold, and the more responsible you are.

       

      For 200,000 years, Authentic Adulthood Initiatory Process was at the center as the highest value of human cultures on Earth. Six thousand years ago - as Patriarchal cultures emerged - the values of society changed.

       

      We are at the end of the Patriarchal era. The rule of law of Patriarchal cultures is exterminating life on Earth at the fastest possible rate. Human beings know this for sure now.

       

      People who continue to follow the rule of law of modern western cultures are criminally insane.

       

      People who continue to try to enforce the rule of law of modern western cultures have already forfeited their lives.

       

      What values are you promoting in your everyday life?

       

      You promote the values of the gameworlds that you play in.

       

      Are you aware of, and have you consciously chosen the gameworlds that you play in?

       

      Do you even know what a 'gameworld' is?

       

       

    • Phase One and Phase Two

      Phase One

      The authentic adulthood

       

      Here is a suggestion: If you have not yet been in one of the initiations listed below, please contact your PLab Trainers at the www.possibilitymanagement.org website to find out when they will do a PLab that includes that initiation.

       

      During 44 years of research we have come to recognize that in order to get to the starting point, that is, in order for you to stabilize in the Adult Ego State where Possibility Management begins, it generally requires most of the listed initiations. In terms of time and energy this is the equivalent of a 4 year university education. If you commit to engaging authentic adulthood initiation work for yourself, then somewhere in the process you offload enough baggage and get connected to enough resources that survival ends and living begins. This is an utterly astonishing experience because it is not predicted by school, parents, or modern society, even if we are designed for it, even if it is our birthright as human beings to authentically grow up. It helps to remember that Possibility Management is not about feelings work or therapy. Possibility Management is the gameworld that automatically emerges in the process of upgrading your thoughtware to the context of radical responsibility. The gateway to making use of Possibility Management is the Adult Ego State, because if you are not basically stabilized in the Adult Ego State you remain hookable by circumstances.

       

      The feelings work that is included at the beginning of Possibility Management is Phase One where you learn how to feel. In Phase Two you consciously apply the energy and information of your feelings in an amazingly empowered and clear life of communicating and relating.

       

      Phase Two Feelings Work is the gateway to most of the core Possibility Management initiations.

       

      If you are still using the Old Thoughtmap of Feelings the initiations won't work for you.

       

      In this same way, Possibility Management itself has a Phase One during which time you are upgrading your thoughtware and learning the new skills and tools of Possibility Management, and a Phase Two:

      • where you use your Gremlin to catch your Gremlin
      • where your lizard brain can't suddenly take you over and wreak childhood havoc
      • where you are naturally holding multiple simultaneous spaces and won't get identified with the reactions from Buttons, Hooks, or Triggers, even if they flood you with strong emotions
      • where something completely different from this really is possible in each moment because you are actively serving as the space through which your Bright Principles do their work in the world. 

      The point to remember is that you just can't get to Phase Two except through accomplishing in reality (not just in your mind...) Phase One. No one can do this for you. No one can stop you from doing it.

       

      (NOTE FOR TRAINERS: The Trainer Guild strongly suggests that before you deliver any initiation for others you participate in it at least twice yourself. During the second time in the initiation you get it what happened the first time.)

    • Initiations

      POSSIBILITY MANAGEMENT ADULTHOOD INITIATORY PROCESSES:

      1. Radical Responsibility For Being A Storymaker (in ETB, radical responsibility for Declaring).
      2. Verbal Reality To Experiential Reality.
      3. Distilling Destiny Initiation (your Bright Principles).
      4. Gremlin Hunting (with drawing and his name).
      5. Escaping Constructs.
      6. Going Sane.
      7. Hidden Purpose Initiation (your Shadow Principles).
      8. The Wall Initiation (creating doorways through shifting yourself).
      9. The Gap Initiation.
      10. The Box Is Optional.
      11. Box And Being Distinction Initiation (minimum 5 times, inner circle facing outer circle).
      12. Ouroboros / Horse Shoe Feedback Initiation.
      13. Low Drama Exit Initiation.
      14. Using the 3 Powers: Declaring, Choosing, and Asking (Conscious Will).
      15. Using Your Will To Put Your Attention On Your Energetic Center (Conscious Will).
      16. Using your will to move your energetic center to your physical center so you are centered (Conscious Will).
      17. Using your will to not scratch an itch, forever (Conscious Will).
      18. Using your will to not follow an urge, forever (Conscious Will).
      19. Becoming aware of what you are aware of right now (Conscious Attention).
      20. Seeing what you are seeing with (Conscious Attention).
      21. Entering the waking state (Conscious Attention).
      22. Staying in the waking state (Conscious Attention).
      23. Using your will to put your attention on your attention (so you can consciously choose where to flow your energy of presence) (Conscious Attention).
      24. Opening Your Pearl (at the center of your being) to receive your original self-given instructions for your life. Since you did not know what language would be needed the instructions are symbollic and graphic, not linquistic, and usually come in three layers requiring three openings.
      25. Making your own pen and ink. Using it to write letters of apology and appreciation to your enemies.
      26. Sleeping overnight alone in the woods.
      27. Declaring and Destroying Energetic Spaces, Holding, Navigating, Shifting Spaces, Calling Bright Principles Into A Space, Holding Double Space (your private personal bubble of space and your public energetic work space), Landing Distinctions in a Space, Building The Context Of A Space, Paying Obeisance to the Presiding Deity of a Space, Inventing New Culture Space in the Ethnosphere.
      28. I Cannot Commit To You Because (a group process).
      29. Distinguishing Your Gremlin, Learning Your Gremlin's Name, Consciously Feeding Your Gremlin The Foods That You Choose, Giving Your Gremlin Interesting Nonlinear Jobs to Do (this reinvents your life outside of modern culture restrictions, concepts, and definitions so you can deliver your destiny and do what you came here to do)
      30. Archetypal Man / Woman Initiation.
      31. Stellating Anger 100% (Stellating the Warrioress or Warrior Archetype, the Doer Maker).
      32. Stellating Sadness 100% (Stellating the Lover Archetype, the Communicator Healer).
      33. Stellating Fear 100% (Stellating the Sorceress or Magician Archetype, the Creator Inventor Designer Researcher Explorer).
      34. Stellating Joy 100% (Stellating the Queen or King Archetype, the Possibility Manager Leader Spaceholder).
      35. Radical Responsibility for Emotions.
      36. Archearchy Initiation (What is archearchy? How to create and live in an archearchal context with neighbors who live in mainstream modern culture or some other culture? What is different about life in archearchy? What is relationship in archearchy such as man, woman, children, family, community, village, global meshwork of archearchal nations?)
      37. Starting Your Own Country (Three people entering an energetic configuration of commitment become a nano-nation as a seed-crystal in the global ethnosphere. The concept that a country must be associated with a piece of land is merely a concept, easy to understand. Just because you can understand a concept does not mean that concept has any relationship to reality.)
      38. Cultural Relativity (Culture is story. Religion is story. Politics is story. Stories are lies fabricated out of Is-Glue for a conscious or unconscious purpose. Who decides which culture you live in?) (What about now?)
      39. Possibility Speaking: being the space through which the Bright Principle of Possibility can speak into the world.
      40. Dragon Speaking Initiation. Being the space through which your Archetypal Lineage can speak into the world, saying what needs to be said about what you take responsibility for.
      41. Hidden Competing Commitments Initiation.
      42. Creating Possibility (the standard "Possibility Chair Work"). Navigate to the liquid state, use the golden keys, go nonlinear.
      43. Growing Up Initiation (the Mom and Dad process).
      44. Peeling Off The Patriarchy Initiation.
      45. Relationship Space Cleanout (both receive this for yourself and navigate this for another).
      46. The Diaphragm Initiation (both receive this for yourself and navigate this for another).
      47. Entfaltungs Initiation (both receive this for yourself and navigate this for another).
      48. Going Into The Mountain (both receive this for yourself and navigate this for others).
      49. Weaving Critical Connections Between Communities of Practice to Strengthen the Field of Influence for the Emergence of Next Culture (Note: critical connections are the connections across which immediate value is exchanged, for example, the value of a new distinction which creates new clarity and new possibility.)
      50. Carving your own wooden spoon. Eating with only that for a week.
      51. Oracle Initiation. Becoming the Oracle.
      52. Energetic Body (ebody) Retrieval and Re-Integration Initiation (both receive this for yourself and navigate this for another)
      53. Master and Slave Initiation.
      54. Sleep (how to disconnect from your Bright Principles and your Archetypal Lineage so that you can fall asleep, entering sleep)
      55. Eye Exercises (relaxing your eyes).
      56. Taking Back Your Hands Initiation (to shape space).
      57. Relaxing your "I's".
      58. Minimizing Your Now Initiation.
      59. Making Time Initiation.
      60. Going Faster Than The Speed of Time Initiation.
      61. Radical Honesty Initiation.
      62. Completing Incomplete Communications Initiation (both information and feelings).
      63. Choose One (both receive this for yourself and navigate this for another).
      64. Flying (living in the liquid-state spaces of free attention between solid states) (experiencing that human beings are designed to fly).
      65. I Already Have Everything That I Need Initiation.
      66.  
      67. Relational Sitting Initiation (countenance).
      68. X and U Group Initiation, X and U Personal Initiation (per Amy and Arnold Mindell - World Work www.aamindell.net).
      69. Vampire Entities Initiation (becoming a Trigger Hunter, both for yourself and to navigate this for others).
      70. Dying Initiation.
      71. Archetypal Lineage Initiation (What are you really?).
      72. Sing Until The Song Sings You Initiation.
      73. What Evil Initiation.
      74. School Initiation.
      75. "I Am" Initiation.
      76. Sewing Up Brain Splits (Self Surgery).
      77. Trust Replacement Surgery (reconnecting to imagination) (Self Surgery).
      78. Bypassing Mind Machines (Self Surgery).
      79. 8 to 10 Old Decision / New Decision Replacements during deep personal healing processes (Self Surgery).
      80. Rewiring the Meaning of Fear (Self Surgery).
      81. Phoenix Process (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).
      82. M.E.S.S. (Mayan Extraordinary Synergy System) (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).
      83. Frying Pan (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).
      84. Open Space (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).
      85. POP (Place Of Possibility) (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).
      86. The Problem Is The Solution (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).

    • Core Initiations

      Find context and experiments to prepare you for each initiation.

      Radical Responsibility on 51 Core Initiations, startover.xyz, Possibility Management

      1. Radical Responsibility For Being A Storymaker

      Experiential Reality on 51 Core Initiations, startover.xyz, Possibility Management

      2. Verbal Reality To Experiential Reality.

      Bright Principles on startover.xyz, Possibility Management

      3. Distilling Destiny Initiation

      Your Bright Principles.
      Gremlin Hunting, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      4. Gremlin Hunting

      Escaping Constructs, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      5. Escaping Constructs.

      Going Sane, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      6. Going Sane.

      Hidden Purpose Initiation, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      7. Hidden Purpose Initiation (Shadow Purpose)

      The Wall, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      8. The Wall Initiation

      9 Gaps, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      9. The 9 Gap Initiation.

      The Box Is Optional, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      10. The Box Is Optional.

      Box and Being Distinction Initiation, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      11. Box And Being Distinction Initiation

      Ouroboros Initiation, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      12. Ouroboros / Horse Shoe Feedback Initiation.

      Low Drama Exit, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      13. Low Drama Exit Initiation.

      Conscious Will, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      14. Using the 3 Powers: Declaring, Choosing, and Asking.

      Conscious Will, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      15. Using your will to put your Attention on your energetic center.

      Become Centered, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      16. Using your will to move your energetic center to your physical center so you are centered.

      17. Using your will to not scratch an itch, forever

      18. Using your will to not follow an urge, forever.

      Split Your Attention, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      19. Using your will to split your attention consciously.

      20. Using your will to put your attention on your attention (so you can consciously choose where to flow your energy of presence).

      Becoming Aware of your Awareness, one of the 51 Core Initiations of Possibility Management

      21. Becoming aware of what you are aware of right now.

      22. Seeing what you are seeing with.

      Entering the Waking State, one of the 51 Core Initiations of Possibility Management

      23. Entering the waking state.

      Staying in the Waking State, one of the 51 Core Initiations of Possibility Management

      24. Staying in the waking state.

      Opening Your Pearl, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      25. Opening Your Pearl.

      Open your Pearl (at the center of your being) to receive your original self-given instructions for your life. Since you did not know what language would be needed the instructions are symbollic and graphic, not linquistic, and usually come in three layers requiring three openings.
      Making your own pen and ink, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      26. Making your own pen and ink.

      Use them to write letters of apology and appreciation to your enemies.

      Sleeping overnight alone in the woods, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      27. Sleeping overnight alone in the woods.

      Space Navigating, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      28. Space Navigating

      Declaring and Destroying Energetic Spaces, Holding, Navigating, Shifting Spaces, Calling Bright Principles Into A Space, Holding Double Space (your private personal bubble of space and your public energetic work space), Landing Distinctions in a Space, Building The Context Of A Space, Paying Obeisance to the Presiding Diety of a Space, Inventing New Culture Space in the Ethnosphere.
      "I cannot commit to you because", one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      29. I Cannot Commit To You Because

      Distinguishing Your Gremlin, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      30. Distinguishing Your Gremlin.

      Distinguishing Your Gremlin, Learning Your Gremlin's Name, Consciously Feeding Your Gremlin The Foods That You Choose, Giving Your Gremlin Interesting Nonlinear Jobs to Do (this reinvents your life outside of modern culture restrictions, concepts, and definitions so you can deliver your destiny and do what you came here to do)
      Archetypal Man/Woman Initiation, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      31. Archetypal Man / Woman Initiation.

      Stellating Anger, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      32. Stellating Anger 100%

      Stellating the Warrioress or Warrior Archetype, the Doer Maker.
      Stellating Sadness, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      33. Stellating Sadness 100%

      Stellating the Lover Archetype, the Communicator Healer.
      Stellating Fear, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      34. Stellating Fear 100%

      Stellating the Sorceress or Magician Archetype, the Creator Inventor Designer Researcher Explorer.
      Stellating Joy, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      35. Stellating Joy 100%

      Stellating the Queen or King Archetype, the Possibility Manager Leader Spaceholder.
      Radical Responsibility for Emotions, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      36. Radical Responsibility for Emotions.

      Archearchy, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      37. Archearchy Initiation.

      What is archearchy? How to create and live in an archearchal context with neighbors who live in mainstream modern culture or some other culture? What is different about life in archearchy? What is relationship in archearchy such as man, woman, children, family, community, village, global meshwork of archearchal nations?
      Starting Your Own Country, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      38. Starting Your Own Country.

      Three people entering an energetic configuration of commitment become a nano-nation as a seed-crystal in the global ethnosphere. The concept that a country must be associated with a piece of land is merely a concept, easy to understand. Just because you can understand a concept does not mean that concept has any relationship to reality.
      Cultural Relativity, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      39. Cultural Relativity.

      Culture is story. Religion is story. Politics is story. Stories are lies fabricated out of Is-Glue for a conscious or unconscious purpose. Who decides which culture you live in? What about now?
      7 Speakings, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      40. Possibility Speaking.

      Being the space through which the Bright Principle of Possibility can speak into the world.

      Dragon Speaking, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      41. Dragon Speaking Initiation.

      Being the space through which your Archetypal Lineage can speak into the world, saying what needs to be said about what you take responsibility for.
      Hidden Competing Commitments, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      42. Hidden Competing Commitments Initiation.

      Creating Possibility, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      43. Creating Possibility.

      Navigate to the liquid state, use the golden keys, go nonlinear.

      Growing Up, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      44. Growing Up Initiation.

      The Mom and Dad process
      Peeling Off The Patriarchy, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      45. Peeling Off The Patriarchy Initiation.

      Relationship Space Cleanout, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      46. Relationship Space Cleanout.

      Both receive this for yourself and navigate this for another.
      The Diaphragm Initiation, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      47. The Diaphragm Initiation.

      Both receive this for yourself and navigate this for another
      Entfaltung Initiation, , one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      48. Entfaltungs Initiation.

      Both receive this for yourself and navigate this for another
      Journey into the Mountain, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      49. Going Into The Mountain.

      Both receive this for yourself and navigate this for others
      Weaving Critical Connections, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      50. Weaving Critical Connections.

      Weaving Critical Connections Between Communities of Practice to Strengthen the Field of Influence for the Emergence of Next Culture Note: critical connections are the connections across which immediate value is exchanged, for example, the value of a new distinction which creates new clarity and new possibility.
      Carving your own wooden spoon, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      51. Carving your own wooden spoon.

      Eating with only that for a week.

      Oracle Initiation, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      52. Oracle Initiation.

      Becoming the Oracle.
      ebody Initiation, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      53. Energetic Body (ebody) Retrieval and Re-Integration Initiation.

      Both receive this for yourself and navigate this for another.

      54. Master and Slave Initiation.

      55. Sleep.

      How to disconnect from your Bright Principles and your Archetypal Lineage so that you can fall asleep, entering sleep
      Eye Exercises, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      56. Eye Exercises.

      Taking Back Your Hands, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      57. Taking Back Your Hands Initiation.

      Relaxing your I's, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      58. Relaxing your "I's".

      Relaxing your restricting sphincters.

      Minimising your Now, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      59. Minimizing Your Now Initiation.

      Making Time, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      60. Making Time Initiation.

      Going Faster Than The Speed of Time, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      61. Going Faster Than The Speed of Time Initiation.

      Radical Honesty, , one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      62. Radical Honesty Initiation.

      Completing Incomplete Communications, , one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      63. Completing Incomplete Communications Initiation.

      Both information and feelings.

      Choose One, , one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      64. Choose One.

      Both receive this for yourself and navigate this for another
      Flying, , one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      65. Flying.

      Living in the liquid-state spaces of free attention between solid states, experiencing that human beings are designed to fly

      I Already Have Everything I Need, , one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      66. I Already Have Everything That I Need Initiation.

      67.

      Relational Sitting, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      68. Relational Sitting Initiation (Countenance).

      X and U Initiation, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      69. X and U Group Initiation, X and U Personal Initiation.

      Vampire Entities Initiation, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      70. Vampire Entities Initiation.

      Becoming a Trigger Hunter, both for yourself and to navigate this for others
      Dying, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      71. Dying Initiation.

      Archetypal Lineage Initiation, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      72. Archetypal Lineage Initiation.

      Sing until the Song sings you, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      73. Sing Until The Song Sings You Initiation.

      What Evil Initiation, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      74. What Evil Initiation.

      Quit School, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      75. School Initiation.

      I Am, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      76. "I Am" Initiation.

      Self Surgery, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      77. Rewiring the Meaning of Fear (Self Surgery).

      Sewing Up Brain Splits, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      78. Sewing Up Brain Splits (Self Surgery).

      Trust Replacement Surgery, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      79. Trust Replacement Surgery (reconnecting to imagination) (Self Surgery).

      Bypassing Mind Machines, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      80. Bypassing Mind Machines (Self Surgery).

      Old Decision/New Decision Replacements, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      81. 8 to 10 Old Decision / New Decision Replacements during deep personal healing processes (Self Surgery).

      Nonlinear Meeting Technologies, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      82. Phoenix Process (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).

      M.E.S.S., one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      83. M.E.S.S. (Mayan Extraordinary Synergy System) (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).

      Frying Pan, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      84. Frying Pan (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).

      Open Space, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      85. Open Space (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).

      POP, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      86. POP (Place Of Possibility) (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).

      The Problem Is the Solution, one of the 51 Core Initiations in Possibility Management

      87. The Problem Is The Solution (Nonlinear Meeting Technology).

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